Without missing a beat, Swift replied, “I owe a lot to this podcast. This podcast got me a boyfriend.” She is referring of course to Travis’s opining on an episode of New Heights about how he had wanted to meet her on the Eras Tour, but was turned away from her dressing room. Or, as she put it, ”the ‘shooting your shot’ heard round the world.”

The couple, who sat intertwined for the duration of the two-hour interview, looked very much in love as they chatted about the genesis of their relationship (they’re not denying Andy Reed played cupid) as well as how they were side-by-side for some of the biggest moments in Swift’s life during the past two years — from the Eras Tour to Swift buying back her masters. And both Kelce brothers showed their support after Swift’s dad, Scott Swift, underwent quintuple bypass surgery earlier this year.

Neither pays too much attention to the chatter online about their relationship, but Swift says she was aware that when they first started dating, both of their fandoms wondered what they had in common. To Swift, their similarities are pretty straightforward.

“On paper, we actually have a very similar job,” she said. “Our job is to entertain people for three plus hours in NFL stadiums. When I’m there, it’s called a dressing room. When Travis is there, it’s called a locker room.

What she said about hobbies:

“I’m really talking about bread 60% of the time now,” she said. And we believe it. The segment on Swift’s bread-baking obsession was as long (if not longer) than the amount of time she spent talking about her album.

“I’m on sourdough blogs,” she enthused of her sourdough fixation, “there’s a whole community of us. Girl, I’m on your blog.”

She says she received her sourdough starter from her parents’ friend Tina, and she really amped things up post-Eras Tour and while her dad was recovering from surgery. The 35-year-old now bakes bread for friends, which she delivers in custom bread bags printed with puns based on her songs, like “Are you bready for it?” and “Loving him is bread,” and “It’s a loaf story baby just say yeast.” And if that’s not the most Taylor Swift Taylor Swiftism I don’t know what is.

On the art of the Easter egg

Yes, the Easter eggs really are that complex on purpose, though she emphasises that she’ll never drop hints about her personal life. This is music only.

And yes, she has a favourite Easter egg: Her speech at NYU after she was awarded an honorary degree, where she read essentially read the lyrics to her then-unreleased album Midnights.

Anything else?

So much! This is 124 minutes of uninterrupted Swift chatter we’re talking about, but we’ll keep it brief.

Swift also revealed: She’s had Lasik eye surgery. She is a triskaidekaphile, which means she loves the number 13 (duh). She sews two things: baby purses and blankets. She enjoys painting. Her mother Andrea recently had a knee replacement. She does not consider herself an athlete, a position that the Kelce brothers take great offence to, and dispute over and over. She never checks her DMs. She’s into numerology. And last but not least, there’s a good chance that her latest loaf might have some cat hair in it.

Watch Taylor Swift’s full New Heights podcast interview here.

This article originally appeared on GLAMOUR (US).